[ he's just - repeating himself, as if that makes his point any clearer. derek gets mildly frustrated with reggie for not just immediately understanding what the fuck he's talking about, even though it's actually kind of a positive sign that he doesn't, so he just. clicks his tongue and focuses on the nick thing. he'll get back to this. ]
Okay. Nevermind. I'll circle back. Tell me how things went. When you guys reunited. Did you make out?
Oh my god. No. Wait. You know what? Yes. Yes, totally. I am asking you, point blank, if Nick told you that I fucked him. That's definitely what this is about. You caught me.
Anyway. We don't have to, no. I just thought, uh... I mean, I wasn't sure if you've had the opportunity to really tell someone how happy you are that he's back? I thought I could offer to be that person. I know how much he means to you. So. I'm being... hashtag... relateable. Asking about... your life. The things you do in that life. With the special someone that you care about. I'm being supportive. Fuckhead.
I'm going to tell you. Jesus. Just... realized that I jumped straight into an interrogation when I haven't even told you that I'm happy about Nick being back. That I'm happy for you. So. I'm happy. For you. And him. I'm sorry he's been through a lot. I'm around. For both of you. If you need me.
[ Reggie's grateful for that, but it's hard to express that-- it's vulnerable and a little embarrassing, and he doesn't know how to talk about it. But... ]
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[ Cool, nailed that. Anyway, after somewhat of a delay: ]
nick's not human either do u think thats rly gonna bother me and that would explain a lot like th
wait
holy crap holy crap dude omg are u a friggin werewolf
[ that's all he needs, really. he appreciates the thumbs up. he... doesn't appreciate how quickly reggie stumbles onto the werewolf thing, if only because the omgs and friggins make him think that reggie's gonna run around and tell everyone he's friends with a dogman, but. it's. fine. it's fine. this is fine. everything's fine. ]
I wouldn't be talking to you if I thought it would bother you. I trust you. So... I'm telling you. Nick was... kind. About it. If Nick was kind, I hoped you would be too.
But. Yeah. Werewolf.
[ and he just said he doesn't think being non-human would bother reggie, but very self-consciously, he quickly types out - ]
[ He can't help it, everything just makes so much more sense now to Reggie; the strength and the stamina, the growls, the pack mentality and that feral, Alpha energy that just radiates from Derek like pheromones...
None of which is inherently inhuman, not on its own, but the moment Derek mentioned it what else would Reggie think of first? ]
dude of course like are u kidding thats friggin AWESOME werewolves rule!
[ it makes sense - if anyone in this city has been privy to some of derek's more canine mannerisms, it's reggie, without a doubt. derek's not exactly worried about being obvious to anyone else but him, he's just... wary. human enthusiasm is always something to be a little wary of. ]
That's, uh. Man. Man, you have no idea how happy it makes me to hear that. I was kind of terrified of telling you. I mean - hyperbolically. I wasn't scared.
[ spoilers: he was scared. his wariness disappears the more he talks. fuck, he loves reggie. ]
Okay. Okay, cool. That's... thanks. Thank you? I don't know why I'm thanking you, but. Thanks. This is a huge relief. For me. Uhh. Most people try to kill me when they find out? Or they freak out. Panic and call me an abomination, or whatever. So. You're a cool guy. Which I already knew. But. Now I know for sure.
yeah, I know I am a cool guy but seriously thats rad. I always loved werewolves
[ Reggie doesn't really know why Derek would be scared of telling him so much, in particular-- anyone else, sure, it makes sense to try to keep it somewhat secret, but Reggie never really thought Derek cared this much about what he thought of him. ]
I mean yknow like I didnt used to think they were actually REAL or anything but like who cares about that right I got u dude nick knows too? u told him?
[ it's-- better, honestly, that reggie doesn't realize how much he's starting to mean to derek. he's a constant source of stability in his life, someone whose company derek actually enjoys, and derek... well, derek hasn't had many friends in his post-highschool life. reggie is something special.
but again. it's better for the both of them if derek doesn't say that. they're guys, right? no need to put too fine a point on their friendship. ]
Nick figured it out. I think he's known for a while. He just sort of... sprung it on me. Droped the Big W before I had a chance to tell him he was barking up the wrong tree. Uh, so to speak. Figured he'd tell you, if I didn't tell you first.
Not that that's the only reason I'm telling you. Just. Yeah. The catalyst.
You... have any questions about this? We can just drop it and never talk about it again, if you want.
[ Yes, exactly, which is yet another reason Reggie enjoys Derek's company so much, too-- true that he sometimes falls into the same "slightly too obvious concern over Reggie," which is not so much a bad thing as a thing Reggie doesn't know how to handle without just kind of getting uncomfortable. People caring about him? Cool, but weird, like who even does that?
And bros don't need to put all that sensitivity out in the open to show they care; they just don't. ]
well he didnt and anyway like thats ur business, so why would he tell me
what kind of questions? like I dont THINK I do but I dunno I might think of sumthing later
Because - I don't know. You're in love, or whatever. That's what people do when they're in love. They talk.
[ is it better or worse to say "you're in love with nick so you probably gossip about everybody's business to each other" than just a straight up "nick's your boyfriend", something he's been told not to say, like, eight times. let's find out. ]
If you can't think of anything, you can't think of anything. That's fine. I'm not... asking you to come up with questions. Most people just kind of... Most people don't hear "I'm a werewolf" and react with "that's awesome" and leave it at that. It's the kind of secret that gets you shot, back home. Or vivisected. Or disembowelled.
"You're in love or whatever. That's what people do when they're in love." Reggie starts and stops typing a few times, not sure what to say to that, not even sure how it makes him feel besides a restlessly compulsive need to chew on his thumbnail.
So he just doesn't respond to that at all, moving on with: ]
I already told u I like werewolves and I like u idk what else u want me to say about it like if u wanna show me then show me or like
I mean idk how werewolves bang but if it helps prove to u I'm not scared I'd be open 2 trying it
[ in much the same way, derek still doesn't really know how to respond to i like werewolves. it's such a sweet and innocent sentiment that changes how derek sees reggie. he already liked him a lot, but derek's got this sudden urge to just-- run over to his apartment, kiss him, jerk him off, show him his gratitude. to reignite that vibe they shared when nick was gone and derek offered himself up as comfort - the promises, the intimacy. derek gets this swooping feeling in his stomach of affection and fondness for reggie and doesn't really know what to do with that, either, so he just.
ignores it. moving on. two bros, moving on in conversation, five feet apart cause they're not gay. ]
Reggie. That's a sweet offer, and I appreciate what you're trying to do, But you couldn't handle "how werewolves bang". Like, I literally think you would die. But thanks. That...
Well, I mean, I'm not going to say that means a lot, but. I appreciate you.
[ Dammit, Derek, this is Reggie; saying that is only going to make him curious, and weirdly determined to try rising to the challenge. He does have that reckless, slightly masochistic streak.
But that "I appreciate you" stops him from getting too hung up on it for the moment, at least. People never say things like that to Reggie, so whenever he hears it, he gets a little flustered. Not that he wants his role in his friends's life to be thankless back-up, time and time again, but fuck, man-- as much as he craves attention and affirmation for pretty much being raised without much of either, he's still never learned how to handle people genuinely liking him, not just Bulldog Captain Reggie, or Leader of the Pack Reggie, or Himbo Buff Arm Candy Reggie (and so on). ]
lol thanks dude 😂 but dont get all mushy on me now
You can't. That's not an insult. I know you're a badass. Human personification of all those Calvin-pissing-on-things bumper stickers. But you can't handle me like that.
[ the claws, the teeth, the dick. it's a pretty OTT transformation, especially towards the full moon, and reggie has enough going on in his life without getting fucked by a literal monster. derek's full of a little too much shame and self-hatred to not just... immediately jump to the worst possible conclusions that could come of fucking reggie while he's shifted. the physical pain is one thing, the exhaustion another, but he's convinced reggie's conviction of liking werewolves is... well.
maybe a little ignorant? derek doesn't want to scare him off with the reality of what he is. so. better to just try to push reggie away to save them both the trouble of losing a friend. ]
That wasn't mushy. I could get mushy. Don't try me. I'll layer it on so thick you won't be able to breathe. I'll talk about all the things I like about you. All the ways you impress me. All the reasons why I think you're an excellent friend and a fantastic person. I'll compliment you so hard you'll be red and sweating and panting. Struggling and squirming and trying to hide all the little noises you'll make. Out of embarrassment, I mean. Not arousal. Maybe arousal. I don't know. Maybe you're into praise. Wouldn't surprise me.
uh huh. am I rly supposed to believe uv NEVER done that back home OR here? cuz I dont buy it but whatever fine
[ It's a little frustrating, not necessarily because Reggie is like, into werewolves (he's not inherently a monsterfucker, although he's certainly been kind of walking an adjacent line these days), but simply because he has a hard time not taking rejection from Derek personally sometimes.
Him being a werewolf makes so much sense given Reggie's natural impulse to respect him, and revere him, and accept him, impress him, serve him, everything a beta is supposed to want to do for an alpha, so it is complicated whenever he offers himself and Derek doesn't seem interested-- it just makes him want to try harder. ]
ugh 🤦🏽♂️ shut up u'd better not
[ Embarrassment and arousal, because yeah dude, he's super into praise. The fond, adoring, ego-stroking kind, and also the filthy, degrading kind, if their dirty talk is anything to go by. ]
I never said I haven't. I'm saying you couldn't handle me. You, specifically. Reggie Mantle.
[ messages like these might be why reggie takes rejection from derek personally. maybe. just a hunch.
it's not a lie, though, not really. derek thinks that reggie's eyes are bigger than his mouth on this, so to speak, and the people he's been with as a werewolf have been intimately prepared for what they're getting into. as far as derek knows, reggie's still pretty fucking new to getting railed in general, so this just... it feels out of his ballpark.
none of this is to say, of course, that derek wouldn't kill to completely, completely dominate reggie during a shift. that kind of raw, feral intimacy is fucking everything to him, and he wants to experience reggie at the absolute peak of his heightened sentences. wants to make him feel better than anyone else ever has. he's just... intimidated. scared of losing him. scared of being reviled. feared.
feels kind of weird to dive into all the reasons why he likes reggie after straight up shooting him down, so... he types, then backspaces, then just. doesn't type again. ]
I'm not insecure. You literally said you don't know how werewolves fuck. You don't even know what it is you're so confident you can "handle".
There would be blood. Biting, scratching. Risks of being turned, depending on how close we were to the full moon and how incoherent my thoughts were. I couldn't guarantee your safety, or my own restraint. It's. Primal, I guess. Violent. Predatory. You'd be pinned in place and torn apart. There are... physical changes... to be mindful of. Claws. Teeth. Other things. I just. Yeah. I don't want to hurt you. Or shatter your illusion of Michael J Fox-esque werewolves. Even if I, too, enjoy basketball.
Well, that does make sense, enough that Reggie can understand the Derek's wariness a little better and even share in some of it, although he'd also be lying if he said it didn't sound kind of hot, too.
Primal. Violent. Predatory. Fuck, dude. ]
u wont and if it hurts a little like so what I dont mind a bit of pain just like wear a muzzle
or idk
[ ]
bite me anyway if its not during a full moon then its fine right but if thats like hot 4 u or sumthing I can always still pretend ur turning me
[ that's-- maybe the hottest thing someone's ever offered to do for him, but also insanely dangerous, so derek quickly types out another rejection. ]
I can turn you with a bite regardless of when I bite you. I'm an Alpha werewolf, so. That's just... something I can do. What I meant was - the full moon makes it hard to think. Hard to reason. Especially here. Biting someone is... an instinct, and it's hard for me to resist acting on my instincts closer to the full moon. So. I would want to make you mine. And that is a lot of danger to put you in.
[ Sigh... and yet again Reggie gets nowhere, and yet again, he is trying very hard not to take it personally. Derek is really not making that easy, though, sound as all his reasoning may be, but to Reggie that's almost besides the point.
He just needs Derek more than he needs werewolf sex specifically from Derek, even if it does sound hot as hell. Hot and dangerous, but...
[ like always, this is for the best, regardless of the gnawing feeling derek has in his chest telling him he should've - done something else. said something else. gone along with it, maybe? flirted with reggie, joked about fucking him, promised to treat him right and give him everything he wanted. maybe it wouldn't have been so bad if he'd just... not jumped immediately into... whatever it was he just did. he basically told reggie to fuck off and die for accepting him as a werewolf and wanting to show him he liked him no matter what.
he feels kind of shitty and doesn't know what to do next. again - this is for the best. he's a monster, and reggie should have some distance from that. he's fucking dating satan now, or some shit. the last thing he needs is a violent dude with big, human-eating teeth getting even more emotionally attached to him than he already is. ]
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[ he's just - repeating himself, as if that makes his point any clearer. derek gets mildly frustrated with reggie for not just immediately understanding what the fuck he's talking about, even though it's actually kind of a positive sign that he doesn't, so he just. clicks his tongue and focuses on the nick thing. he'll get back to this. ]
Okay. Nevermind. I'll circle back.
Tell me how things went. When you guys reunited.
Did you make out?
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like did u guys bang or sumthing?
tell me
but uh
yeah a little
do we rly have to talk it
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Wait.
You know what?
Yes.
Yes, totally.
I am asking you, point blank, if Nick told you that I fucked him.
That's definitely what this is about. You caught me.
Anyway.
We don't have to, no.
I just thought, uh... I mean, I wasn't sure if you've had the opportunity to really tell someone how happy you are that he's back? I thought I could offer to be that person.
I know how much he means to you. So. I'm being... hashtag... relateable. Asking about... your life. The things you do in that life. With the special someone that you care about.
I'm being supportive. Fuckhead.
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if u dont tell me I'm just gonna ask nick, like u do know that right?
[
oh
well
ok
thanks
he went thru a lot so its been kinda complicated
but I am happy he's back
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Just... realized that I jumped straight into an interrogation when I haven't even told you that I'm happy about Nick being back. That I'm happy for you.
So.
I'm happy. For you. And him. I'm sorry he's been through a lot.
I'm around. For both of you. If you need me.
Anyway.
Uh.
So, okay.
So.
Alright.
I'm not human.
Thoughts?
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👍🏽
[ Cool, nailed that. Anyway, after somewhat of a delay: ]
nick's not human either do u think thats rly gonna bother me
and that would explain a lot
like th
wait
holy crap
holy crap dude omg
are u a friggin werewolf
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I wouldn't be talking to you if I thought it would bother you.
I trust you. So... I'm telling you.
Nick was... kind. About it.
If Nick was kind, I hoped you would be too.
But.
Yeah. Werewolf.
[ and he just said he doesn't think being non-human would bother reggie, but very self-consciously, he quickly types out - ]
I hope that's okay with you.
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None of which is inherently inhuman, not on its own, but the moment Derek mentioned it what else would Reggie think of first? ]
dude of course
like are u kidding thats friggin AWESOME
werewolves rule!
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That's, uh.
Man.
Man, you have no idea how happy it makes me to hear that. I was kind of terrified of telling you.
I mean - hyperbolically. I wasn't scared.
[ spoilers: he was scared. his wariness disappears the more he talks. fuck, he loves reggie. ]
Okay. Okay, cool.
That's... thanks. Thank you? I don't know why I'm thanking you, but. Thanks.
This is a huge relief. For me. Uhh.
Most people try to kill me when they find out? Or they freak out. Panic and call me an abomination, or whatever. So.
You're a cool guy.
Which I already knew. But.
Now I know for sure.
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I am a cool guy
but seriously thats rad.
I always loved werewolves
[ Reggie doesn't really know why Derek would be scared of telling him so much, in particular-- anyone else, sure, it makes sense to try to keep it somewhat secret, but Reggie never really thought Derek cared this much about what he thought of him. ]
I mean yknow like I didnt used to think they were actually REAL or anything but
like who cares about that right
I got u dude
nick knows too? u told him?
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but again. it's better for the both of them if derek doesn't say that. they're guys, right? no need to put too fine a point on their friendship. ]
Nick figured it out. I think he's known for a while.
He just sort of... sprung it on me. Droped the Big W before I had a chance to tell him he was barking up the wrong tree. Uh, so to speak.
Figured he'd tell you, if I didn't tell you first.
Not that that's the only reason I'm telling you. Just. Yeah.
The catalyst.
You... have any questions about this?
We can just drop it and never talk about it again, if you want.
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And bros don't need to put all that sensitivity out in the open to show they care; they just don't. ]
well he didnt
and anyway like thats ur business, so why would he tell me
what kind of questions?
like I dont THINK I do but I dunno
I might think of sumthing later
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You're in love, or whatever.
That's what people do when they're in love. They talk.
[ is it better or worse to say "you're in love with nick so you probably gossip about everybody's business to each other" than just a straight up "nick's your boyfriend", something he's been told not to say, like, eight times. let's find out. ]
If you can't think of anything, you can't think of anything. That's fine. I'm not... asking you to come up with questions.
Most people just kind of...
Most people don't hear "I'm a werewolf" and react with "that's awesome" and leave it at that.
It's the kind of secret that gets you shot, back home.
Or vivisected.
Or disembowelled.
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"You're in love or whatever. That's what people do when they're in love." Reggie starts and stops typing a few times, not sure what to say to that, not even sure how it makes him feel besides a restlessly compulsive need to chew on his thumbnail.
So he just doesn't respond to that at all, moving on with: ]
I already told u I like werewolves
and I like u
idk what else u want me to say about it
like if u wanna show me then show me
or like
I mean idk how werewolves bang but
if it helps prove to u I'm not scared I'd be open 2 trying it
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ignores it. moving on. two bros, moving on in conversation, five feet apart cause they're not gay. ]
Reggie.
That's a sweet offer, and I appreciate what you're trying to do,
But you couldn't handle "how werewolves bang".
Like,
I literally think you would die.
But thanks.
That...
Well, I mean, I'm not going to say that means a lot, but.
I appreciate you.
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bro cmon I can handle anything
[ Dammit, Derek, this is Reggie; saying that is only going to make him curious, and weirdly determined to try rising to the challenge. He does have that reckless, slightly masochistic streak.
But that "I appreciate you" stops him from getting too hung up on it for the moment, at least. People never say things like that to Reggie, so whenever he hears it, he gets a little flustered. Not that he wants his role in his friends's life to be thankless back-up, time and time again, but fuck, man-- as much as he craves attention and affirmation for pretty much being raised without much of either, he's still never learned how to handle people genuinely liking him, not just Bulldog Captain Reggie, or Leader of the Pack Reggie, or
HimboBuff Arm Candy Reggie (and so on). ]lol
thanks dude 😂
but dont get all mushy on me now
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That's not an insult. I know you're a badass. Human personification of all those Calvin-pissing-on-things bumper stickers.
But you can't handle me like that.
[ the claws, the teeth, the dick. it's a pretty OTT transformation, especially towards the full moon, and reggie has enough going on in his life without getting fucked by a literal monster. derek's full of a little too much shame and self-hatred to not just... immediately jump to the worst possible conclusions that could come of fucking reggie while he's shifted. the physical pain is one thing, the exhaustion another, but he's convinced reggie's conviction of liking werewolves is... well.
maybe a little ignorant? derek doesn't want to scare him off with the reality of what he is. so. better to just try to push reggie away to save them both the trouble of losing a friend. ]
That wasn't mushy.
I could get mushy. Don't try me.
I'll layer it on so thick you won't be able to breathe. I'll talk about all the things I like about you. All the ways you impress me. All the reasons why I think you're an excellent friend and a fantastic person.
I'll compliment you so hard you'll be red and sweating and panting. Struggling and squirming and trying to hide all the little noises you'll make.
Out of embarrassment, I mean. Not arousal.
Maybe arousal. I don't know. Maybe you're into praise. Wouldn't surprise me.
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am I rly supposed to believe uv NEVER done that
back home OR here? cuz I dont buy it
but whatever
fine
[ It's a little frustrating, not necessarily because Reggie is like, into werewolves (he's not inherently a monsterfucker, although he's certainly been kind of walking an adjacent line these days), but simply because he has a hard time not taking rejection from Derek personally sometimes.
Him being a werewolf makes so much sense given Reggie's natural impulse to respect him, and revere him, and accept him, impress him, serve him, everything a beta is supposed to want to do for an alpha, so it is complicated whenever he offers himself and Derek doesn't seem interested-- it just makes him want to try harder. ]
ugh 🤦🏽♂️
shut up u'd better not
[ Embarrassment and arousal, because yeah dude, he's super into praise. The fond, adoring, ego-stroking kind, and also the filthy, degrading kind, if their dirty talk is anything to go by. ]
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I'm saying you couldn't handle me.
You, specifically. Reggie Mantle.
[ messages like these might be why reggie takes rejection from derek personally. maybe. just a hunch.
it's not a lie, though, not really. derek thinks that reggie's eyes are bigger than his mouth on this, so to speak, and the people he's been with as a werewolf have been intimately prepared for what they're getting into. as far as derek knows, reggie's still pretty fucking new to getting railed in general, so this just... it feels out of his ballpark.
none of this is to say, of course, that derek wouldn't kill to completely, completely dominate reggie during a shift. that kind of raw, feral intimacy is fucking everything to him, and he wants to experience reggie at the absolute peak of his heightened sentences. wants to make him feel better than anyone else ever has. he's just... intimidated. scared of losing him. scared of being reviled. feared.
feels kind of weird to dive into all the reasons why he likes reggie after straight up shooting him down, so... he types, then backspaces, then just. doesn't type again. ]
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:/
I can handle it
I can handle plenty
do I rly still need to prove that to u by now
whats the big deal anyway
but its fine if yknow
ur not like, up to it
like if ur insecure or sumthing w/e bro I GET it but
honestly I'm not that judgemental
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You literally said you don't know how werewolves fuck.
You don't even know what it is you're so confident you can "handle".
There would be blood. Biting, scratching. Risks of being turned, depending on how close we were to the full moon and how incoherent my thoughts were.
I couldn't guarantee your safety, or my own restraint.
It's. Primal, I guess. Violent. Predatory. You'd be pinned in place and torn apart.
There are... physical changes... to be mindful of. Claws. Teeth. Other things.
I just. Yeah.
I don't want to hurt you.
Or shatter your illusion of Michael J Fox-esque werewolves.
Even if I, too, enjoy basketball.
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Well, that does make sense, enough that Reggie can understand the Derek's wariness a little better and even share in some of it, although he'd also be lying if he said it didn't sound kind of hot, too.
Primal. Violent. Predatory. Fuck, dude. ]
u wont
and if it hurts a little like so what
I dont mind a bit of pain
just like wear a muzzle
or idk
[
bite me anyway
if its not during a full moon then its fine right
but if thats like hot 4 u or sumthing I can always still pretend ur turning me
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I can turn you with a bite regardless of when I bite you.
I'm an Alpha werewolf, so. That's just... something I can do.
What I meant was - the full moon makes it hard to think. Hard to reason. Especially here.
Biting someone is... an instinct, and it's hard for me to resist acting on my instincts closer to the full moon. So.
I would want to make you mine. And that is a lot of danger to put you in.
Also,
I'm not wearing a muzzle. Eat a dick.
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He just needs Derek more than he needs werewolf sex specifically from Derek, even if it does sound hot as hell. Hot and dangerous, but...
Hell, he doesn't know. ]
fine
just forget it then
I was kidding
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Good.
[ like always, this is for the best, regardless of the gnawing feeling derek has in his chest telling him he should've - done something else. said something else. gone along with it, maybe? flirted with reggie, joked about fucking him, promised to treat him right and give him everything he wanted. maybe it wouldn't have been so bad if he'd just... not jumped immediately into... whatever it was he just did. he basically told reggie to fuck off and die for accepting him as a werewolf and wanting to show him he liked him no matter what.
he feels kind of shitty and doesn't know what to do next. again - this is for the best. he's a monster, and reggie should have some distance from that. he's fucking dating satan now, or some shit. the last thing he needs is a violent dude with big, human-eating teeth getting even more emotionally attached to him than he already is. ]
Still like me?
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